Subject: Re: Diabetes and Paxil
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 08:30:41 -0700
From: Malcolm Graham
Newsgroups: misc.health.diabetes
Are you saying that just because they are derivatives of Scientology-based organizations that the information they present is invalid? If the information they are presenting is invalid, please point out what is invalid rather just a general aspersion based on personal bias against the source of the information. Personally, I don't care what the source is if the information turns out to be useful or leads to other information that is useful.
Based on personal experience, I think there is a connection between taking Paxil and the onset of Type 2 Diabetes. Now I'm looking for the evidence. For example, I was diagnosed within 6 months of starting Paxil and my HbA1c indicated that I had high blood glucose levels for at least 3 months earlier. A year earlier my HbA1c was fine. So the indications in my case are that the onset of Type 2 Diabetes was within 3 months of starting Paxil.
Coincidence? Maybe! At the very least, coincidence or not, more investigation is warranted. Also note that I can also personally attest that the withdrawal symptoms from Paxil are very severe. I plan to stop taking Paxil following the protocol advocated (which involve increasing my glutathione levels), I'm seeing my doctor on Monday morning to talk about what I'm planning, to initiate a glutathione level test, and to get her advice.
I will be documenting my experience in withdrawing from Paxil. I will also be pursuing my research into the the possible connection between Paxil and the onset of Type 2 Diabetes, I'll let the group know when I've reached a supportable conclusion along with the evidence. Unless you can provide information that either supports or denies possible links between Type 2 Diabetes and SSRIs, further discussion would be counter productive.
Some of the links simply provide background information on the topic; I've found that researchers in one area often don't see possible connections with evidence from research in other areas and I think some cross-fertilization is often useful.
William C Biggs MD wrote:
Malcolm,
Some of your references are derivatives of Scientology based "organizations"
that have been on a jihad against antidepressants since the 1950's. Apparently
L Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, had mental problems and was incarcerated
in a mental institution. After that experience, a central tenet of Scientology
has been the rejection of psychiatry and everything to do with psychiatry. And
some of your references don't mention Paxil, or diabetes. Perhaps you can tell
us what you felt the connection was to CFS and glutathione, for instance.
Cheers, William C Biggs MD
"Malcolm Graham" wrote
I'm still in an information gathering phase, but here are some of the links
that I've found thought provoking...
1. http://www.paxilprogress.org/
2. http://members.tripod.com/fstreicher/
3. http://www.zoomph.net/diabetes.world/depression.htm
4. http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/g2601/0012/2601001233/p1/article.jhtml?term=%2Bdiabetes+%2Bpaxil
5. http://www.netreachint.com/paxil.htm
6. http://www.prozactruth.com/paxilsideeffects.htm
7. http://www.docuweb.ca/immunocal/bounous.html
8. http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/00/slides/3652s1_05/index.htm
9. http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/ip/social.services/cfseir/naneir/news/038-Oct99.h
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10. http://www.catie.ca/supple-e.nsf/07d5dd50a873071d85256863005cb89f/97c431d20ee5fda8852568e3005c3c10?OpenDocument